Bman, thanks for the insight. I also remember a guy I met at the course a few years back who said that #9 (former #18) used to be a headache for the Hooters Tour. He said the Hooters Tour used to play Emerald Lake, but because the players got so tired of dealing with the green on #9, they took the course off their schedule. He said the big hitters would intentionally aim for the front bunker on their second shot because the green would not hold anything, and they usually could reach in two with no problem. They got frustrated with the hole, so they decided to play elsewhere. They asked management if they could reshape the green correctly, and obviously nothing happened. Whether this whole story is actually true or not, who knows.