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Fort Mill Golf Club   Bill V at 8/31/07 2:08pm
Avoid Fort Mill Golf Club due to the greens that are in horrible condition! Literally NO grass to be seen on 95% of the greens. I enjoy this course often but was very frustrated they didn't provide an "accurate" warning of the conditions.

By the way, I just discovered this site today and like the layout and the links to the discounts.
Rocky River Update   Jim C at 8/30/07 10:32pm
I played Rocky River Wednesday, August 29 and found the greens in horrible shape. I was shocked! I have always loved the greens at Rocky River. They had large areas with no grass. Some greens had been somehow plowed with cuts running the length of the green. All greens had been punched. The holes were about 50% healed over.

If you love Rocky River because of their consistant nice condition, don't play it now. You'll want a refund.
Golf/Lessons   Kathy at 8/25/07 11:45pm
I am curious about a place I just saw in the Concord Mills Mall. It looks very interesting and I would love any feed back that you could give me.It is called Kis Golf and seems to be very reasonably priced.
Re: october golf   Claude at 8/23/07 3:05pm
Springfield is a bear! One of the toughest courses in the area. Ballantyne is in great shape, not sure about the others.
october golf   golf4jf at 8/22/07 7:47pm
Hey Guys...Its getting to be that time of year again and I need your input. My buddies and I are coming to the Charlotte area from Columbus Ohio in mid October. We are playing, Regent Park, Verdict Ridge, Springfield and Ballantyne. We have played all of them before except Springfield. I would appreciate any information regarding the condition of these courses. Thx golf4jf
Re: Belmont   B-Man at 8/19/07 10:02am
Just a quick note about Pawtuckett. Afraid it closed about a year and a half ago. Sold to developers, but last I checked it was still idle and grown over. Really a shame. I used to love that course, one of the first courses I played here in Charlotte and a great layout.
Re: Belmont   Calude at 8/19/07 9:56am

I'd start with taking a look at Verdict Ridge and Skybrook Skybrook is awesome!

Pawtucket may also be a nice option for you

Green Meadows is also very close by

Hope that helps and hope you enjoy your time in Belmont and the surrounding area.
Re: Sun City (Carolina Lakes)   Booner at 8/16/07 1:08pm
Belmont area courses?   Ron at 8/16/07 9:53am
Hello, we will be visiting family in Sept. who live in Belmont and we are looking for course recommendations. We don't want to spend a fortune but we would like to play some nice courses even if it means plying later in the day. We are also willing to drive within 30 minutes. Any recommendations would be appreciated. Thanks, Ron
Carolina Lakes   JW at 8/2/07 6:38pm
I actually stopped by the Carolina Lakes clubhouse today on a whim. The course looked pretty nice from what I could tell, and the parking lot was about 60% full at 4:00 on a HOT Thursday afternoon. SOMEBODY knows about the place, it's just not well publicized. Anyways, I stopped into the pro shop to inquire about greens fees. They told me it was "$63.13 exactly" all days, all times for non-residents of the community. Hope this helps!
Re: Sun City   B-Man at 8/2/07 10:00am
Best information I could find:

5074 Grandview Drive
Fort Mill, SC 29707

Sun City Carolina Lakes is approximately 25 miles south of Uptown Charlotte on Highway 521 in Lancaster County, S.C., and only 25 miles from the Charlotte-Douglas International Airport. From the North: Take I-77 South to I-485 East toward Pineville to Johnston Road (Highway 521). Merge onto Hwy 521 South via exit 61. Go approximately 9 miles. The site is located on the west side of Hwy 521 at Jim Wilson Road. (5.5 miles south of the NC State Line)
From the South: I-77 North to 485 East, take Hwy 521 South via exit 61. Go approximately 9 miles. Sun City Carolina Lakes will be on the right. The site is located on the west side of Hwy 521 at Jim Wilson Road. (5.5 miles south of the NC State Line)
From Hwy 160: Highway 160 East to Highway 521. Turn right heading south onto Highway 521. Sun City Carolina Lakes is approximately 4 miles down on the right.

The only phone number I found was for one of the builders, Del Webb, PHONE: 803-746-4468.

If someone gets a scorecard and can send it to me, let me know.
Sun City   Claude at 8/2/07 7:18am
How do you get there? What is their telephone number? I can't find it! Thanks.
Putting practice?   B-Man at 7/25/07 11:26pm
This little putting game is quickly addicting:

Carolina Lakes (Sun City)   jonathan at 7/16/07 9:11am
Played it on 7/12 and loved it. As noted before, markings are a little scarce and a course map is not available yet, however this is going to be a gem in a couple of years. Hole nine reminds me of something you would see at in Miami....bunkers, bunkers everywhere.
The cost is a little steep compared with other locals, but the cost is constant. So if it is $58 on Wednesday then it's going to cost you $58 on Sat as well. Aside from the cost, lack of a layout map and minimal course markings, this Sun City gets a major thumbs up from me!
It's incredibly spread out and just a fun and challenging course too play.

Carolina Lakes (at Sun City)   J.D. at 7/15/07 5:59pm
This course opened in December and with another year of growth it will become one of Charlotte's best and most challenging courses. It's extremely hilly. Think Charlotte's "Bandon Dunes." The greens and bunkers are king-sized, which really throws off your ability to gauge distances. Yardage markers and white/red/yellow stakes are scarce, but I've been assured that they're going to improve all of that soon.

I played it twice today, once from the blue tees and one from the whites. Without a yardage book (coming soon, they say), the whites are tougher because you'll find you need to be more accurate with the driver to avoid running through fairways. In fact, a great tip for anyone playing the whites is -- leave your driver in the bag all day. Even when it looks safe, 3 wood is the right club.

B-man -- you've gotta give this course a try and add it to your arsenal of local courses. You won't be disappointed.
Carolina Crossing   Squid at 7/10/07 9:07am
I also played Carolina Crossing back around Father's day. I agree with what the other two lads said. The greens were slow beyond belief. However, the rest of the course was in pretty good shape. The back 9 is a little close together and I found myself playing from another fairway a few times!!
Re: Carolina Crossings   Paul at 7/9/07 10:53am
I agree with the posting from jamie. If any of you are married, you know that your wife does not always enjoy you spending 60 bucks to play golf, so my brother and I have had to find courses that are a decent drive, but prices we used to pay when we were younger. all courses, including Springfield (my fave here) have outpriced us. That being the case, Carolina Crossings has become a course we play often. The greens, yes, very slow. but the fairways are very plush, and in great shape. GPS on the carts is a plus, and you can get some crazy deals, below 20 bucks with a car on some sites. if you live in south charlotte, and get a good rate, it is worth the play.
Carolina Crossing   Jamie at 7/1/07 3:09pm
I played Carolina Crossing (formerly Carolina Downs) near Rock Hill yesterday for the first time. I had heard it used to be in poor condition, and then was bought by two local businessmen and renovated. The course, although a good value for the money ($38 Saturday AM), is a little paradoxic. What do I mean by that? Well....

First the good: very friendly staff, the fairways were plush and in great shape. The greens were fairly smooth and consistent.

Now the bad: the greens were consistently the slowest I have putted on all year. It was very difficult to get the speed right on putts. I was amazed by how slow they were, and this was at 7:45 AM after they had just been cut!

Also, the layout of the course is a little odd. The vast majority of the holes are narrow doglegs, probably because the course is also extremely short, only 6000 yards from the BLUE tees! Several blind shots, and a few fairways slope downhill AWAY from the dogleg, so even perfect tee shots end up in the rough. Local knowledge is important here. The fairwyas are also very close to each in opposite directions on several holes, so errant tee shots can cause a problem.

Considering all, I'd give the course a thumbs up for the price, and I'll come back, but I sure hope the greens are faster next time. Give the course a try, but consider yourself warned.
Charles T. Myers   Chipper Green at 6/28/07 9:56pm
Played Chucky T today for the first time in a year. I must say, this place is really headed in the right direction. The fairways were in great shape and the greens rolled well. Still alot of blotchy spots if you get off the fairway but overall, I was impressed. Apparently they are under new management...Ratcliffe golf, and I had a chance to talk with the GM and he promised that it would only get better. I hadn't been there all year for a reason, but after today's round I think I'll be back more often.
Charity Golf Tournament   K. Hetzel at 6/26/07 1:35pm
The 2nd annual Joan Roberts Foundation for Ovarian Cancer "Swing for the Cure" golf tournament will be held Monday, July 16, 2007 at the Raintree Country Club, 8600 Raintree Lane. This event is hosted by Keith Roberts and Kristin Hetzel.
The tournament will be teams of four, captains choice with a shotgun start at 1:00 pm. The $100 per player cost includes a boxed lunch donated by 131 Main, greens fees, on-course refreshments and a BBQ dinner at the awards ceremony following the event. A silent auction and chances to win great prizes including a brand new car from Dale Jarrett Ford for a hole in one is also scheduled. For details & registration, visit or call 704-661-4400. Registration deadline is July 11, 2007. All proceeds go towards the Joan Roberts Foundation for charity projects to help raise ovarian cancer awareness.
Re: River Oaks at lake norman   Fisher at 6/12/07 1:59pm
I played River Oaks on Sat., 6/9 and never played it as NC National. This assessment is based on the present layout of the course.

River Oaks (ROGC) has the potential to be one of the finest courses on the I-40 corridor west of 77. At only 6400 yards from the back tees, itís a fair test of shotmaking & club selection. You really need to pick the right clubs on this course. That's why it can be one of the best in that area.

Keep in mind, and I had to keep telling myself, that ROGC is a NEW course, from tee to green. A lot of the greens are new & the staff may still be in the process of marking yardages. You can tell that ROGC laid down a lot of sod to build those greens. They wanted the least amount of time for grow-in so they can begin to get revenue from play, so they laid down sod instead of seed to a lot of the greens on the front 9. Considering the immaturity of some greens, most rolled exceptionally well, and consistent. I was pleasantly surprised!

The 1st Hole used to be a long par-4 back in the pre-ROGC era. Now, itís a short, but fair 320-yd par 4. The creek no longer is in play, but the new green is. It's shallow from front to back (I paced off 16 steps from the front until the hole drops off into the abyss). An accurate short iron approach on Hole #1 will reward you with an easy birdie opportunity. If you miss long or'll scramble for bogey or worse, make a drop for double. I could be wrong, but #1 may be the only significant change on the front 9 until you finish the side.

My favorite hole by far is #8. A 400-yd par-4 from an elevated tee, and a tee shot that forces you to hit a high-draw. The visual aspect of this tee shot is amazing!! You have to play it yourself to believe it. The fairway looks tiny, but a high tee shot opens it up. Go ahead a rip driver, you have plenty of room, just donít miss it right. A pushed tee ball on this hole is gone forever.

The 9th is the epitome of penal golf! Before the change, it mustíve been a short, easy par-4. Now, itís a daunting, 220 yd par-3. You have to carry your shot all the way to the green. Any short shots are lost into the ravine the fronts the green & the sides. Higher handicappers will want to take advantage of the fairway and hit their tee shots & hope for a close approach to a one-putt par. Otherwise, youíll stare at double or worse if your tee shot is short. Stronger players may want to hit an extra club & play to miss long; thereís a natural ďbackstopĒ behind the green. Although this hole plays a full club less, you still need to catch it all to get it on the putting surface.

From what I understand, the back-9 still remains as it once was. Again, itís a test of club selection and accuracy. Length off the tee is not a significant part of scoring on this course. For example, a short par-3 (127 yds) on the back-9 requires two- to three-clubs LESS on approach because of its severe elevation. I hit easy SW where it should have been smooth LW...heck, if my putter had one degree more loft, I would have hit it.

The 200 yard par-3, 17th is another hole where you end up scratching your head to exactly how far you need to hit it. Itís a flat hole, with water on the left side. Looks can be deceiving! Play your shot to the right half of the green to eliminate the hazard and greenside bunkers.

My only criticism is that you always question your yardages on many of the holes, especially the par-3ís. My recommendation to the course is to send its assistant pro or superintendent to laser each hole from at least 5-10 different spots and mark it down, get in on paper & hand it to every player that checks in. That would have helped me tremendously. If you have a range finder...bring it!!

Otherwise, River Oaks can be the place to go if youíre looking to play a great mountain style course but also challenge your shotmaking & on course management. Although not as long as Skybrook or Verdict Ridge, River Oaks can belong to that class in several years, if not less.
Re: River Oaks at lake norman   Geof at 6/11/07 12:01pm
I played the front nine back when it was NC National....decent track...lot's of different club use (at least for me) been a couple of years so the conditions I had wouldn't be relevant...I'd be interested in making the drive just to see the changes...
River Oaks at lake norman   paul at 6/6/07 10:39am
Apparantly, this course just re-opened, and I was wondering if anyone has played it, or is thinking about playing it? clickit has some decent offers on it, but i dont want to drive an hour if it is a dump, but it looks decent. has anyone played it?

also, has anyone ever played gastonia municipal before?
Re: Westport   Fisher at 6/5/07 10:19am
I played Westport last week after work one afternoon. Teed it up as a single around 530 or so. Overall, the conditions weren't that bad & I liked the layout of the course. Tee boxes were a mix of dry spots and grass & the fairways are in need of rain. On the otherhand, the greens were exceptional and rolled pretty smoothly. I do remember they have about 4 sets of tees & will accomodate your skill level. Westport has the potential to be a great course, once conditions become more favorable. Its a great value!
Westport   Sam at 5/31/07 6:04pm
Has anyone played Westport recently? How was the condition of fairways and greens? Do they have senior tees? Thanks for any information available.
More course updates...   J.D. at 5/29/07 1:06pm
1) The Divide was in decent condition, though the greens were long and slow. I always considered this a straightforward course, but on closer inspection, there are a handful of interesting holes here. But they keep the course in fine shape -- better then CLT Links (although Links finally improved the greens).

2) Stonebridge had everyone starting on the #10 hole and I'm convinced that is a better experience than normal (despite two back-to-back Par 5s). Conditions were okay -- greens were recently punched and also showing signs of wear.

3) Springfield was in very good shape, but the greens were long, slow and bumpy. Understandable, given our current drought. Bunkers were in perfect condition.
CLT Golf Links   J.D. at 5/25/07 11:46pm
Okay, I've been consistently tough on CLT Golf Links, because there's so much potential at this Tom Doak course and I hate to see it treated poorly.

Good news (at last). The greens have made a comeback. They're still cut high and slow, but they're rolling and I didn't see any beetles today -- a good sign. Fairways in decent shape. It's obvious they're clearing out some of the high rough to speed up rounds a bit. Now if they can just improve the bunkers, this underrated star may shine bright again.
Birkdale   Sandy at 5/21/07 8:38pm
Played Birkdale today and it was in good shape. #10 green was a little beat up, but that was the only issue. All greens rolled true. The range was pretty packed, but the course played pretty quickly.
Best place for lessons and practice ?   Sean M at 5/10/07 4:02pm
Hey, great site. It's so nice to have all this info in one place. I moved to the Charlotte area (Indian Trail) last year from Oregon. I used to be a 3-4 times per year golfer, but I've started playing more often since coming here and I want to take some lessons. I've also got kids who would like to learn.

Any recommendations on particularly good instructors, schools, camps, etc ?

Any recommendations on the best practice facilities? I'm about 5 minutes from the driving range on 74, but I need to work on my short game and putting on real grass.

So far, I've played the Divide, Traditions, and Emerald Lake.   Mike Hendrix at 5/4/07 1:16am
What complaints do yall hear about last minute golfer, from the courses or players?

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