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Aeration and other dates   DrSchteeve at 4/7/13 6:13pm
So I called around and was given the following information by these courses - don't flame me if it's wrong! It's was what I was told.

Charles T Myers 4/8
Charlotte National 3/8
Edgewater 3/21
Emerald Lake 3/8
Fox Den 3/17
Glen Oaks 4/8
Olde Sycamore 3/8
Red Bridge 6/25
Springfield 6/25

Eagle Chase says they will install new greens on the front 9 4/18, back 9 4/28, and full course could be open as soon as 3/8 (seems like an aggressive timetable). I didn't check Carolina Trail courses since I don't play them.
Golf course snobbery - reply to slomofo   DrSchteeve at 4/5/13 3:41pm
So what is your favorite course if VR is 2nd fav? Playing VR this Sunday - Clickit coupon is $55. Room for a 4th if you would like to join (11:50 tee time).

Unfortunately EdgeWater just got a poor review, and the last few times I have played it the fairways were in pretty bad condition (tho I love the track).

Talk about a hike - that would be Rock Barn, but I may try to get up that way. It would probably meet my high dollar but worth it criteria.
Re: Golf Course Snobbery/VR   slowmofo at 4/5/13 1:35pm
Schteeve and hateslowplay I agree with both of you. I remember hearing how expensive golf can be and how you pay for what you get. I think things like the internet booking is what is changing the idea of pricing. Though, because of that I play more golf. Which in turn means me spending more money at the course for food and bevs so its a trade off for the course. I usually end up sticking around after a round to sit down get a beer ( or 7) and some food while watching the pga with a few other guys on the weekends. Unfortunately Verdict Ridge has jumped off Golfnow. While I love VR ( my second favorite course in the area) I can't fathom paying $70 to play 1 round when i can go play 2 rounds at a decent course that is closer to home. VR is a haul and yes it is worth it, but the price is a sticking poi! nt in my head. So I will play VR unfortunately only a few times this year and save my long hauls for Rock Barn and Edgewater.
Green Aerification   twoputt at 4/4/13 2:56pm
Verdict Ridge is in great condition and will not have any Spring aerification because of their new Champion Bermuda Greens. I played the other day and they said they will aerate in the summer one time. BTW The greens were rolling great!! Great pace both on the course and on the greens....

Re: Golf Course Snobbery   HateSlowPlay at 4/4/13 12:28pm
You raise a good point, and I agree it is a sad state of affairs that there are courses out there that do not warrant their asking price. Any time I am going to walk into a pro shop and pay the full asking price, then I expect to get full value for my money. For example, the asking price for the Charlotte golf links is $59 on a saturday. But the range balls are from 1923, and the practice chipping green is 2 circles of rough with a flag sticking out. So even before you tee off, you already start wondering where your $59 went to. But then on the other hand, you have Ballantyne office park, I mean Resort, which charges around $80. Even though the conditions are always top notch, the rounds take 5 hours, you get pestered by the employees (was asked what my tee time was 4 times last time I played th! ere from when I got out my car to just before I tee'd off), and then the course is an office park with a golf course squeezed in. The other problem is that courses don't seem to adjust their prices based on current conditions, I have played good courses, where I have asked what the greens are like, and told they are great, to go out and find they were aerated a few days ago. So, some of it might be people having unrealistic expectations of what they should get when paying the full price, and the other side might just be that many golf courses don't provide the quality you expect to be paying for.
Golf Course Snobbery   DrSchteeve at 4/4/13 11:07am
I know I will get lots of grief for this, so I am starting with that acknowledgement. Still, I think it is a sad state of affairs that we are seeing a lot of reviews to the effect of "It's worth $28, but not a penny more". I just wish there were more courses out there that would get reviews to the effect of "It's worth every bit of $65". The combination of the economy and IRI have really hurt the mid to high end of Charlotte public golf.
Re: Aeration in Charlotte   Ryan at 4/1/13 2:03pm
Rocky River will NOT have any Spring aerification because of the new greens. They only need 1 per year, and that will happen in July. Course is is great shape!

Ryan Brickley
PGA Director of Golf
Aeration in Charlotte   Don at 4/1/13 11:11am
Does anyone know of a list of Charlotte courses that have been aerated by date? I know Charlotte National aerated a few weeks ago.
Re: Charlotte National allowing fivesomes?   PT3040 at 3/13/13 7:23am
National does have a group that plays with 5 or more from time to time several days a week...the owner is part of this group. I have seen as many as 8 in the group before but I will say in their defense that they are usually on the course at the less busy times (which seem to be harder and harder to find at National). I have never been held up by them and they are pretty much mannerly to the other golfers. I have never had a problem with them and Dave goes out of his way to make me always feel welcome at his course. I guess I am trying to say that it isn't widespread and doesn't seem to be an issue with those that play there regulary.
Re: Charlotte National allowing fivesomes?   izzyf150 at 3/11/13 1:17pm
Iím not sure what day of the week you were out there but I know on Wednesdays there are a couple leagues that play out there. Whenever they have an off number of golfers they usually make a five some and send that group off first. That allows the league to finish close together without having to wait on the five some to finish up if they fall behind. They like to have some socializing after the round and donít want any league golfers leaving before everyone has finished golfing. They think this strategy helps. Anyway the foursomes trailing behind are part of the league too (their not mad) they understand the deal. They also have a league on Friday that I know about too. I canít vouch for the other days of the week but they might have some other leagues too. I would say if you seen a five some and it! wasnít the owner it was probably a league. They will bend the rules for a league, it guaranteed money every week.
Eagle Chase   DrSchteeve at 3/11/13 10:33am
Eagle Chase will be redoing their greens in April. Changing to some type of zoysia, which supposedly does well in heat, requires little watering, grows in both shade and sun. They will be softening the contours of 4 greens - 2,3,12, and 14. Supposedly the whole process will take only 32 days. Now if they could only do something with the cart paths...
Charlotte National fivesomes   DrSchteeve at 3/11/13 10:10am
Yes they routinely allow fivesomes, even on busy spring and summer weekends. One rumor is that the course owner plays in a fivesome regularly. I will say that even with fivesomes the pace is sometimes OK - they do ranger it fairly well.
Charlotte National allowing fivesomes?   Mike at 3/11/13 8:19am
First of all I love Charlotte National. Very nice people and the greens are always in great shape, I love the layout with some hard and some easy holes.

With that said, the past few times I have been out there I have seen fivesomes on the course. One time there were 4 or 5 groups backed up behind the fivesome waiting on tees. The other time it was a fivsome going from 9 to 10 so no impact on me as I was just starting my round. I am hoping this is not a new policy and was allwed because it was winter, Hopefully this does not happen into spring and summer as my favorite course will be eliminated the first time I have a five and a half round due to a slow fivesome.
Re: Glen Oaks Clubhouse Destroyed   The B-Man at 3/4/13 7:32am
This article has a little more information, including photos, about the fire that destroyed the clubhouse:

Gaston Gazette: Clubhouse fire
Re: Springfield   Wulfpack at 3/2/13 9:02am
Both Springfield and Fort Mill allow pushcarts. All over the place at Fort Mill as it is a walker's course. Fort Mill is very well layed out for walkers - not far at all between green and tee. Springfield is a bear to walk both from a distance standpoint as well as elevation. I like the front nine at Fort Mill (Donald Ross) but the back isn't all that bad and there are a few neat holes on the back. I think a dual membership will give you variety and the best of both worlds for a very reasonable price. Happy golfing!
RE:Springfield   slowmofo at 3/1/13 1:20pm
Thanks Wulfpac! I actually am thinking about walking the course with a push cart. I don't know if they are frowned upon people down here ( up north you should be old to use them in most ppl's eyes). They are allowed at Springfield which is good. I was thinking about doing the FT mill club too, but I heard the front 9 Ross design is awesome, but the back 9 is lacking. Do you know if its a far walk between green and tee? Im young and in shape so thats not a problem
Re: Springfield   Wulfpack at 2/27/13 10:10pm
I love Springfield, one of my favorites, but make no mistake it is a very challenging track. If you do join, you can receive discounts at sister courses Fort Mill GC, Chester and Lancaster. You can also get a twin membership between Fort Mill and Springfield. It is well worth it. All of these courses are owned by the same group so look into it. Springfield is a nicer course, but there are parts of Fort Mill that I prefer. Fort Mill's front nine is a classic Donald Ross design. It is a really neat little course and the course I play the most as it is walker friendly. Springfield gets more traffic and is not as walker friendly. A whole lot of steep hills, too.

Never been out to Rock Barn so can't make a fair assessment there. Love Red Bridge and Verdict Ridge. Springfield is def! initely in the same class. If you like a Verdict Ridge and are able to make it out that way, be sure to check out Glen Oaks as well. Clubhouse just burned down, unfortunately. But it had some age on it and is probably due time for a new one. And if you have never been out to Edgewater, it is well worth the trip.
Springfield   slowmofo at 2/27/13 6:00pm
I'm Thinking about joining springfield this year. I have heard so much good things about it and since I play 2 times a weekend its probably more cost effective (if I walk). I love red bridge, rock barn, and verdict ridge and I wonder how this place stacks up? Anyone a member here?
Glen Oaks Clubhouse Destroyed   Wulfpack at 2/24/13 1:03pm
First Emerald Lake. Now Glen Oaks. What a shame.

Glen Oaks Clubhouse Destroyed
Re: CLT courses with best drainage?   izzyf150 at 2/24/13 2:45am
I cant give an opinion for all of Charlotte. I dont feel like driving across Charlotte to find myself playing golf on some wet sloppy course. I can give my opinion for the east side of Charlotte. I think Monroe Country Club is the best draining course. Monroe does have a couple holes that dont drain well but considing the course as a whole compared the the other courses on the east side, I would have to say Monroe.
Courses with best drainage   DrSchteeve at 2/22/13 6:21pm
I've been blasted for this suggestion in the past, but I stand by it. Best fairways after heavy rain, hands down, are at Eagle Chase. Most fairways at Eagle Chase have slope, and that combined with the type of fairway grass make the fairway conditions after even heavy rain the best in Charlotte.

Best fairway conditions may not translate to best overall conditions, however. Traps may retain water after heavy rain. The greens at Eagle Chase have been in generally poor condition over the past few years, but apparently they are going to redo the greens this year.
CLT courses with best drainage?   HateSlowPlay at 2/22/13 1:42pm
Given the amount of clay soil here in Charlotte, a lot of the courses really struggle with drainage after rain/snow. Based on everyone's experience, what are the best and worst courses in the area in terms of drainage?
Tee Time Golf Pass   Erik Augustin at 2/16/13 3:59am
Hey Everyone I'm a regional rep for Tee Time Golf Pass for the Dayton Ohio Area and I'm just dropping by to leave my website for the Mid-Atlantic Region of this years booklet to see if there are any courses in your area that you can save some good money on. just go to and type in promo code 203 and see if there are any courses that you play in the booklet and check out the incredible deals you can get for the whole year!!
Larkhaven   slowmofo at 2/1/13 2:36pm
I have to agree about Larkhaven's conditions. They are awesome. It feels good to play a course with green grass and full plush fairways and Greens. The only problems are its an older style course ( though its not the best layout), the greens are slow, and they allow fivesomes. Why any ranger would let five people play together blows my mind.
Courses in Charlotte   Wade at 1/14/13 11:50pm
Courses that are good play in Charlotte are Olde Sycamore and Verdict Ridge. I am sure that there are others but those are 2 of my favs.
Emerald Lake Golf Club   Rob Lodge at 1/13/13 9:38pm
I played Emerald Lake on Saturday and really enjoyed myself. The course was in good shape, with only 2 greens on the back with some minor issues. The rest were great. The real reason to write this is all that went on other than the round of golf. On the first tee, I was handed a brand new metal divot tool and thanked for supporting the course. At the turn, the course had a grill set up and cooked burgers, hot dogs, and brats for all the golfers. They were out there cooking all day. It was just nice to see extra effort put forth and to see and feel actual gratitude for playing. I really enjoyed myself.
Visit to Charlotte   silverback at 1/12/13 8:58pm
I'll be passing through Charlotte on the last Monday in March, with time to play one round. It'll be my first round in 6 months, because I live in the land of ice and snow. I'm a 17 hdcp. I would love your suggestions for where I might play in Charlotte, or on the way to Atlanta. Thanks!
Larkhaven   izzyf150 at 1/8/13 1:34pm
Larkhaven has reseeded with rye grass again this year. Everything is just as green as can be. I tried to play there around 10:30a.m. yesterday (Monday) and turned around and left due to the large line of people still waiting to tee off. Every hole in sight had gofers on it also. If conditions were like they were last year, this is probably the best public course in Charlotte right now. (with the exception of the greens being slow) Don't attempt to go out here without a tee time and make sure you have time to play, that includes the week days.
Lessons/video   DrSchteeve at 12/26/12 6:50pm
I've had great success with Gary Sinquefield up in Mooresville, but I'm wondering if there is a place nearer with a video and/or launch monitor that can be used for practice. I live in the University area.
Re: senior golf leagues   HateSlowPlay at 12/26/12 11:16am
check out:
The Senior Amateur Golf Tour

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